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Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:20 pm

I am going to attempt the redo of the Building of my current project, my 251/4-C named DeDee. This is the new redo of the old FOA fit that was so wrong and out of scale. I have two of these kits. the frist of coarse will remain a 251-C, the other will be converted to a D body and be a 251/9. heres the beginnibg of the build know as Dedee.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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It is here at this point that I will say the new tracks are a 100% improvement over the old kits tracks.

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All the parts for the most part are Lazer Cut.

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You will be doing a lot of sanding as every part has to be done and for a proper ft almost all of the edges will have to be beveled too.

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I built both of the lower hulls at the same time because these should be the same for both halftracks.

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I glued both of the lower plates together and then sanded the seam down till it was all blended in.

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It was at this point that I realized just how much the original kit was off. The tracks and suspension are not even in the picture yet and the new one is just about the same height as the old FOA kit was completely built.

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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by mutt71 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:09 pm

Man! You are the BOMB!
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by dti62 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:49 pm

Way too David....
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:20 pm

It was at this stage of the build that I started to find some short comings. After taping the front plates together I found that the angles were too steep, so I set about redoing these first.

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Then I discovered the upper side plates were too short.

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Here's the corrected front plates.

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Here's the Corrected plates with the body lines added.

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Here's a comparison of just how far off the angles were.

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Here's the front plates all glued together.

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I have now also added the missing hull body lines.

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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by dti62 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:31 pm

Looking good, can't wait to see more of this amazing build.
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by mutt71 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:35 pm

Thanks Dave, for reposting this build here! These are the photos and commentary that I am wanting to see!
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:25 am

With the Front now built to proper dimensions it is now time to move on to the engine compt. bulk head and drivers compt. The kit doesn't really provide a very good one and there were a few parts that the instructions didn't really do a very good job of showing how to place them. However I found that they worked perfect to form the engine compt. bulk head. I also found a perfect use for the hull formers too. Used them to form the joint between the passenger compt. and drivers compt.
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:37 pm

Now its time to move on to the rear of the kit. First I did the swing arms for the rear doors. I put together the swing arms together as the kit specified. Then I found that the kit supplied metal rods were to hard to cut so I went with Brass rod instead. Worked much better. Then I went on to the rear armor plate installation. Found out after some test fitting that the angles weren't correct, so that became my next area to correct.
Here's some pics of the rear door hinges.
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Here's the pics of the redo on the rear armor plating.

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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by mutt71 on Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:14 pm

I can not tell you just how much that I am thankful that you still have all of these photos to post up here! Many Thanks for doing so!
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:31 am

now its time to move on to the rear doors. As the J hooks have already been made, its time to put them together. The kit came with steel rods for this. However I found that this was way too hard to cut, so I went with Brass Rod instead. Followed the kits inst. for this part.

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It was at this point that I didn't like what I was looking at. not when I got this pic sent to me and then the redo begins.

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I cut the doors back off and removed the mounts from the doors and then cut them down to this.

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Now that looks more like it.
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by johkaz on Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:24 am

Hi,

Many thanks for the step by step pictures, as it really shows how much work you have put into the model.

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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:32 pm

First I would like to thank all that have been watching and sharing their comments on the building of Dedee. So far I have only had to fix a few defects in the original kit, as I am trying to make her the most correct vehicle possible. With this being said it is now time to move on to the Tracks and Suspension. As of right now all I can say about the tracks is they are a 100 % improvement over the old FOA ones. Ok on to the first step. Send the wife and kids to her mothers house for the weekend. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Then pick up your favorite beverage. For me its this.

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Then find a nice comfortable spot and remove all the flashing off each track part.
If this is not done the pieces WILL NOT FIT TOGETHER PROPERLY and stay together either. The next step is to gather up all the control arms. They will all have to be drilled out and taped. IF THIS STEP IS NOT DONE YOU WILL BREAK AND CRACK THE CONTROL ARMS. I myself don't have a drill press so I will show you the poor mans way. Get the two taps and drill bits the instructions call for but also get some washers and nuts to fit the taps.

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use the nuts and washers to keep the control arm straight on the tap as you work with them.

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After both ends of the control arms have been drilled and taped the bolts should go in straight and fairly easily. now here are a few shots of the of FOA tracks.

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and now here are the new ones.

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Now you can see what a huge difference there is between the old and new.
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Sun May 31, 2015 10:07 pm

I saw Dedee's Crew do the " Toyota Leap " this afternoon. Pulled her off the shelf today and Finally Finished the Ft Axle Asm. Here's a little over view of the process of the Axles Redo. THE KITS FT Axle Asm. is basically a direct copy of Armor Hobbies 250's kits Ft Axle Asm. Which is totally wrong for a 251. The Spring sat directly over the top of the Axle and was curved, not in front.

Kits Axle

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My Start of the redo.

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Then a Friend Sent me these. I didn't like what I was looking at on my first attempt at the redo.

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SO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD I WENT. First the Spring. What to use. LIGHTBULB.  Brass. Here's the ens result.

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Which lead to this.

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Next I had figure out how to mount the axle asm. to the hull. Came up with this.

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Then I added the Spring stop.

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Next it was on to the Stabilizer System.

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Looks Pretty good right. I thought so TOO. Put this Kit together and called East Coast Armory.

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After John and I had talked, it was decided that it was a good Idea. However it needed to look a lot more like the real asm.  Well to make a long story shorter I went through two more axle designs before I came Came up with this one. Which I feel is as close to the original as I can get. WHAT DO YOU FOLKS OUT THEIR THINK.

The Sway Bar links are not Complete Yet.

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Wish Bone Asm.

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A little goofing around

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The Completed Asm. Except for Axle Stops and straps.

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So We Went From This

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To This

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AND TO FINALLY THIS.

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So That the end results would look more like this

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So if John see no more Changes that have to be made He will be offering it Shortly. Now Its time to move on to the Fenders and Rear storage boxes.
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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by Halftrack1 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:45 pm

Well for the most part the rear fender section were pretty much straight forward. I placed the sections in their proper position and glued the sections together and taped them in place for a few hours.

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After I removed them I added the my usual reinforcement strips and sanded them down.

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Then I moved on to the front fender sections. It got a little weird at this point. I had some gaps to fill in and a few alignment issues

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The rear fender front sections had to be trimmed for proper alignment to the Hull and rear fender sections on both sides.

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Then I joined the two sections together.

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I still had some old F.O.A. fenders left over from a old kit. I used them as fillers for all he gaps and installed the pioneer tool clasps that I had made.

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Then I added the main reinforcement strips to the inner fender and hull.

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I used my method of mixing plastic dust and glue to form a plastic paste to fill in the holes in the inner hull.

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Next I re glued the fender and re sanded everything back down and added the reinforcement strips to the front fenders.

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Then I went back to the scrap pile and found some more old outer F.O.A. fender sections and used them to finish off the fenders. For some reason F.O.A. did not supply this section. So I made my own.

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Then I did the same thing to the other sides fender sections

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Next its on to the armored air louvers.
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Post by dti62 on Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:22 am

Could you make me some Tool clamps for my 250..??
Looks good as far..!!
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Post by Halftrack1 on Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:54 am

The air louvers are now redone. the origionals were not even close to being right so I redid then[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Here's the Louvers redone.

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Now here they are glued on and sanded down.

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Now the whole hull is glued together Really starting to take shape.
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The kits side storage boxes were also not up to my Standards ether so I redid them too. They are now individual boxes that open and close

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I have also got started on the interior. The floor is now also layed.

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Re: Dedee. The build of my 251/4-C

Post by mutt71 on Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:15 pm

David, you have really done some fantastic works here on this kit. I hope that ECA will have the front end parts available soon, if not already. I will check them for availability.
Thank you for posting up the in progress photos for us to follow along with.
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